Hurdy-gurdy Mailing List - July 2000

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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:51:45 -0700
From: R. T. Taylor <rtaylor _at_ amp.csulb.edu>
Subject: HG: George Sand and the Festival at St. Chartier

George Sand and the Festival at St. Chartier

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Since just about everyone on this list is going to St. Chartier this
year, listen up. !!!

Why is the organization that organizes the festival called " The committe
George Sand"?

So what does the famous French writer George Sand have to do with the
festival at St. Chartier?
										
Read the book by Mr/Ms George Sand, "Les Maitres Sonneurs" or for those
of us that are French impaired read the translation titled  "The Master
Pipers".

You will not find out why your Hurdy Gurdy has problems when it is humid,
or what are the best string gauges for those low G chanterelles,  but you
will find a story that takes place in and around the area of St.
Chartier.

Of course now that I said that I confess that I have not read it yet. So
what do I know.

Maybe I was waiting for the movie version starring Mel Gibson.

I know that it is still in print so I am going to buy a copy.

The translation is published by Oxford University Press

ISBN 019283097X

You can order it for $10.95  at Amazon.com or any other book store.
Amazon rips you off with a $4.30 shipping charge. So go and support your
local book store before they go out of business.

r.t.



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Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 01:40:44 -0700
From: Alden & Cali Hackmann <hurdy _at_ silverlink.net>
Subject: HG: "The Master Pipers"


Cali and I have a copy which we are (slowly) reading.  

George Sand's country home of Nohant is very close to St. Chartier.  We
didn't manage a trip there ;-(  though we did take an afternoon off from
the festival to visit nearby Sarzay, which we heartily recommend.  Sarzay
is the 13th century chateau which is being almost single-handedly restored
by a meter-reader for the French electric company.  

There's also a George Sand museum in le Chatre, which we saw from the
outside but didn't visit - they were closed when we were available, and we
were at St. Chartier when they were open.  

There's a great movie about her affair with Frederic Chopin, called
"Impromptu", with Judy Davis as George Sand and Hugh Grant as Chopin.  No
hurdy-gurdies and no shots of Nohant, but not to be missed. 

Alden  

 

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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:58:10 +0100
From: Frank Vickers <Frank _at_ vickhast.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: HG: George Sand and the Festival at St. Chartier

Hi list

I've read the book.  In fact there's very little about gurdies in it.
I'm not sure there's anything in fact.  The story is about a chap called
Tiennet.  He takes up bagpipes.  He falls in love with Brulette (but so
does the narrator & the muleteer Huriel)

There's a wedding scene in the grounds of the Chateau of St Chartier.
There's also a strange (at least in my translation) initiation ceremony
for Tiennet to become a member of the bagpipers "guild".

My 4 sentence summary does not do justice to the story.  But then again
neither did the translation, I read.

So now you may understand why Patrick Bouffard named a 3x Bourrée
Tiennet?


>    The translation is published by Oxford University Press
>
>    ISBN 019283097X
>
>    You can order it for $10.95  at Amazon.com or any other book store. 
>    Amazon rips you off with a $4.30 shipping charge. So go and support 
>    your local book store before they go out of business.

I think this might be the new translation which is much better than the
one I read some years back.  (Of course, I lent it to somebody...)

Frank

Frank Vickers
Norwich, UK
        tel +44 (0)1603 505910/443942/441050
        mobile 0771 820 4253
        fax +44 (0)870 052 3751
http://www.xim.org.uk

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Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 13:42:26 +0200
From: B&D Renaudin <d140557 _at_ club-internet.fr>
Subject: HG: RE: St. Chartier, Sonnez Bourdons

Message bilingue/bilingual mail

Hi,

As you know Sonnez Bourdons, "Berry All Stars Big Band" will play in St
Chartier for the Gilles Chabenat "carte blanche". They are actually
recording a CD, available in subscription for 100 FRF, fore more details
check their page (Musique Centre France) :

http://perso.club-internet.fr/d140557/SonBour.html

and/or contact :

Daniel LANGLOIS, 06-15-92-45-76 mailto:dan.langlois _at_ wanadoo.fr
Gérard GUILLAUME, 02-54-60-95-01 mailto:gerard.guillaume _at_ univ-orleans.fr

Dominique Renaudin


Bonjour,

« Sonnez Bourdons » travaille actuellement sur un projet de CD, associé
à un nouveau spectacle. Dans ces deux cadres se prépare une
collaboration avec le vielleux Gilles CHABENAT, qui conduira les
musiciens à nouveau sur la grande scène de Saint Chartier en juillet 2000.
http://perso.club-internet.fr/d140557/SonBour.html
Une souscription à 100 FRF est ouverte pour ce CD, si vous désirez y
participer contactez :

Daniel LANGLOIS, 06-15-92-45-76 mailto:dan.langlois _at_ wanadoo.fr
Gérard GUILLAUME, 02-54-60-95-01 mailto:gerard.guillaume _at_ univ-orleans.fr

Dominique Renaudin



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Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 16:22:12 -0400
From: Henry Boucher <boite _at_ sympatico.ca>
Subject: HG: More about Aurore...

For the reader of the 21th centh , the story  of the master pipers is on
the edge of boring,
we sometime fail to see what was so revolutionary and scandalous about
it .

Let's start with her name : Aurore Dupin , baroness of Du Devant , took
the pen name
George  Sand because it was impossible to be published as a woman . In
the same
way she had a men's costume made for her when she lived in Paris , so
she could
walk in the streets, go in public places and observe the everyday life
of the time.
She also smoked cigars , wich was still a pleasure in those days .

 There is not much about HG , a short description of a HG player who
came to get
his master's examination at the same time as the hero of the novel.

By the way , this examination and initiation ceremony is a complete
fiction , Mrs Sand
knew there were no such thing , it is added to the novel to show that in
mid 19th cent,
the old guilds , mostly of construction workers , had degenerated into
corrupted
organisations more interested in the fortune of the masters and their
families rather than
the preservation of  a tradition of excellence .  ( Many song  guilds
songs are in the last 33rpm record of  the band Malicorne " Le tour de
France ".)


  The interesting part for the HG player is the confrontation of the
people from the Berry
plains , area  of the  G/C tuning and major key tunes and the people
from the Bourbonnais , forest covered hills area of the D/C tuning , the
2x minor key
tunes and the big bagpipe " La Grande Bourbonnaise " with a 20" to 24"
chanter and
a 40" drone . It has to be seen and heard !

 In fact , the controversy about the different tunings is still raging
to this day.<g>

  Bring a wine bottle , and I will tell you more
( the local wine sold by the glass at the buvette is quite good but the
small grocery
store in the village 's main street sell better stuff at  decent prices
<g>)

Henry




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Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 14:53:37 -0700
From: Alden & Cali Hackmann <hurdy _at_ silverlink.net>
Subject: HG: Wine, Aurore, pegheads again

Henry says: 

>  Bring a wine bottle , and I will tell you more
>( the local wine sold by the glass at the buvette is quite good but the
>small grocery
>store in the village 's main street sell better stuff at  decent prices
><g>)

There's also a nice "cave" in Le Chatre if you have a car, right next to
the Lion d'Argent Hotel.  A great place to hide for a little while if it's
REALLY hot outside. ;-)

Henry can, I hope, give you a list of Mde. Sand's paramours.  It's a
who's-who of European society at the time.   

A number of HG pegheads are reputed to be decorated with Mde. Sand's head
(not the real thing, a smaller carving in wood ;-) ) because of her
patronage of the folk arts including the music of the country people. 

Alden   

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Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:27:35 EDT
From: Maxoubbn _at_ aol.com
Subject: Re: HG: More about Aurore...

Dans un courrier daté du 01/07/00 22:26:25 Paris, Madrid (heure d'été), 
boite _at_ sympatico.ca a écrit :

<< There is not much about HG , a short description of a HG player who
 came to get
 his master's examination at the same time as the hero of the novel.
 
 By the way , this examination and initiation ceremony is a complete
 fiction , Mrs Sand
 knew there were no such thing , it is added to the novel to show that in
 mid 19th cent,
 the old guilds , mostly of construction workers , had degenerated into
 corrupted
 organisations more interested in the fortune of the masters and their
 families rather than
 the preservation of  a tradition of excellence .  >>

It's not so simple. We're searching about these "ceremonies", and it's too 
long to explain it (in english) in a few words. But we can speak about that 
in Saint-Chartier...

Maxou

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Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 08:53:51 -0400
From: Judith Lindenau <judith _at_ taar.com>
Subject: HG: RE: accomodations

Just recently stayed at the Hotel de Bretagne, Pont l'Abbe, which was 
quite delightful, and reasonable.
tel. 011-33-2-98-87-17-22

judith
Judith Lindenau, CAE, RCE
Traverse Area Association of Realtors
http://www.taar.com
icq 6445710
MAILTO:judith _at_ taar.com


Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 12:04:40 -0400
From: Henry Boucher <boite _at_ sympatico.ca>
Subject: HG: Ceremonies,

"
It's not so simple. We're searching about these "ceremonies", and it's
too
long to explain it (in english) in a few words. But we can speak about
that
in Saint-Chartier..."              Maxou

   In this case , I will bring the bottle of wine ( red or white ?)

Henry

BTW, ( in the subject of white wine ) There is one thing that surprises
the North Americans in France ( and England) is that it is so difficult
to find ice for your ice-box.
Do you know of a place that sells ice in or near St Chartier ?

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Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:56:06 -0700
From: R. T. Taylor <rtaylor _at_ amp.csulb.edu>
Subject: HG: Re: Ceremonies,

I think that the "Stoc" market In La Chatre sells Ice.
r.t.

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Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 14:42:58 +0200
From: B&D Renaudin <d140557 _at_ club-internet.fr>
Subject: HG: CD 2 TAPAGE

Bilingual mail/message bilingue

Hi again,

More new CDs, this time by Tapage, (Stéphane et Christelle Durand, Régis
Dupuis, etc...) their second one will be out for St Chartier.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/tapage

Enjoy!

Dominique Renaudin

Bonsoir, 

Le Deuxième CD de TAPAGE (Stéphane et Christelle Durand, Régis Dupuis,
etc...) sera pressé pour St CHARTIER.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/tapage

Dominique Renaudin


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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:56:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alden Hackmann <darkstar _at_ u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: HG: CD 2 TAPAGE


> More new CDs, this time by Tapage, (Stéphane et Christelle Durand, Régis
> Dupuis, etc...) their second one will be out for St Chartier.
> 
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/tapage

Tapage's first CD has become one of our favorites.  We are looking forward
to hearing the second one.  

If you haven't heard Tapage, you should!

Alden (the opinionated listmaster)




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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:12:22 +0200
From: B&D Renaudin <d140557 _at_ club-internet.fr>
Subject: HG: Francophone Centre France music lists

Hi,

The main lists about Centre France music are being brought back to life,
if you feel like joining them...

Looks like a rainy/windy/stormy St Chartier this year...

Dominique Renaudin


Bonjour à toutes et à tous 
 
par manque de temps et suite à une réorganisation des liste par Voila,
j'avais perdu
le contact avec les listes de diff
Berry, Cornemuse et Musiques traditionnelles du Centre . 
Je viens de les réactiver. J'ai conservé les mêmes adresses et je vous
informe de
leur redémarrage : 
 
Si vous avez conservé les adresses d'anciens abonnés merci de les
informer de la
reprise !

1) berry _at_ club.voila.fr 

Les pages de la liste sont : 
info : http://club.voila.fr/do/info/berry 
abonnés : http://club.voila.fr/do/review/berry 

Les adresses de la liste :

berry-abonnement _at_ club.voila.fr : pour vous abonner 
berry-desabonnement _at_ club.voila.fr : pour vous desabonner 
berry-moderateur _at_ club.voila.fr: pour écrire au(x) modérateur(s) de la
liste 

 

2) musiques-traditionnelles-du-centre _at_ club.voila.fr 

Les pages de la liste sont : 
info : http://club.voila.fr/do/info/musiques-traditionnelles-du-centre

abonnés : http://club.voila.fr/do/review/musiques-traditionnelles-du-centre

Les adresses de la liste :

musiques-traditionnelles-du-centre-abonnement _at_ club.voila.fr  : pour vous
abonner 
musiques-traditionnelles-du-centre-desabonnement _at_ club.voila.fr  : pour
vous desabonner 
musiques-traditionnelles-du-centre-moderateur _at_ club.voila.fr  : pour
écrire au(x) modérateur(s) de
la liste 

3) cornemuse _at_ club.voila.fr 

Les pages de la liste sont : 
info : http://club.voila.fr/do/info/cornemuse

 

abonnés : http://club.voila.fr/do/review/cornemuse

Les adresses de la liste :

cornemuse-abonnement _at_ club.voila.fr  : pour vous abonner 
cornemuse-desabonnement _at_ club.voila.fr  : pour vous desabonner 
cornemuse-moderateur _at_ club.voila.fr  : pour écrire au(x) modérateur(s) de
la liste 

 

à bientôt 

Dominique Lemay


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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 12:43:36 PDT
From: Tom Evans <charloscove _at_ hotmail.com>
Subject: HG: New to List

Hello to all,

I am new to the list and thought I would introduce myself to everyone.  My 
name is Tom and I should be receiving my first hurdy gurdy (Olympic Minstrel 
Model) within the next couple of weeks.  Cali has been great to answer the 
millions of questions I have asked over the past couple of months.  I love 
the sound of this instrument but beyond that I don't know much about it.  
I'm sure it will be a learning experience but I am happy to take it on.  I 
live in Atlanta and would love to know if there is anyone around here who 
also plays.

Besides my new found love of the hurdy gurdy I am also very interested in 
genealogy and where my mothers family is from in Bohemia.  I would love to 
combine both of these but I'm not sure if anyone out there can tell me if 
the hurdy gurdy is even played there.  I know that in one genealogy pamphlet 
I received it had an article on a Slovakian instrument (forget the name now) 
and it showed a picture of a maker in his shop.  Lo and behold if he didn't 
also make the hurdy gurdy as well.  Any chance someone out there might know 
more about this instrument in this area of Europe?

I look forward to chatting with all of you in the future!

Tom

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Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:09:45 -0400
From: Judith Lindenau <judith _at_ taar.com>
Subject: HG: RE: New to List

Tom:

Welcome!


The only instrument maker in Slovakia who makes a hurdy gurdy is
Tibor Koblicek.  In the Slovak language, the instrument is called
a 'ninera'.

I met Tibor last year when I was in Slovakia, and have one on
order...interestingly enough, it should be here in Traverse City,
Michigan, within the hour. (It won't replace my Hackmann gurdy,
however!)

Judith Lindenau
judith _at_ taar.com


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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:14:03 -0700
From: Christina Wright <ccwright _at_ halcyon.com>
Subject: HG: St. Chartier - Gennetines

Dear Folks,
	I'm just finishing my packing and will get on the airplane 
tomorrow (Tuesday) evening.  France is over 6 thousand miles away and 
I find it difficult to imagine myself there.  But, I will be there, 
at noon, at the bar nearest the Espace Plus.  I'll be the short woman 
who's drinking cider with a silly grin on her face!

Yours in waiting,

Chris Wright

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:44:22 +0200
From: B&D Renaudin <d140557 _at_ club-internet.fr>
Subject: Re: HG: St. Chartier - Gennetines

Hi,

Make sure to bring about 3 raincoats and rubber boots, it's pouring down
here, real Irish weather.

Enjoy!

Dominique (30km from St Chartier)

:-P

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:21:22 -0700
From: Alden & Cali Hackmann <hurdy _at_ silverlink.net>
Subject: HG: Used Volksgurdy for sale

Olympic Instruments currently has a used Volksgurdy for sale.  Info can be
found at http://www.hurdygurdy.com/omi/used.html

This is a lovely instrument, come on over and take a look. Newly restrung -
only one owner! :-) Gets great mileage.

:-)----Alden & Cali

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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:03:34 -0400
From: Henry Boucher <boite _at_ sympatico.ca>
Subject: HG: Carved heads.


To those who do not already know , Xavier is the host of a very
interesting w-site
about our favorite instrument , it is in french but is certainly worth a
look.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/xaime/vielle/vieldeb.html

 IMHO ( in my humble opinion ) as far as I know  and other bla-bla -bla


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